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Old 22.09.2020, 14:39
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Re: Setting up home server and network

NAS is not the backup.

The Cloud is the backup for what you have in the NAS.

In other words, NAS is equivalent to single hard drive in respect of definition of backup. Which has to be in a different location and allow for disaster recovery (the definition is not mine).

Or you can do like Jaceq and Phil wrote, where the NAS is the backup for something else in a different place. But this is not what you are saying.

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Old 22.09.2020, 14:43
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Re: Setting up home server and network

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Let's try for the 4th time this time aloud: NAS + Cloud = backup.
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Old 22.09.2020, 15:01
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Re: Setting up home server and network

Anyway, there are a number of easy to use consumer products to do this. As mentioned QNAP and Synology are 2 of the big consumer brands.

A friend went with a more budget/powerful solution: took an existing unneeded PC and installed FreeNAS onto it.
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Old 22.09.2020, 17:49
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Re: Setting up home server and network

This went ming-mong very quickly.

A NAS is a storage device. Any storage device can be part of a backup strategy. I have two Synology devices in two countries that sync with each other (I have 4 of the things in total). I also have a Windows server that leverages O365 and OneDrive to back up into the Cloud too.

The NAS device provide me with a backup as they sync the important content between each other.

One last thing to consider is if ransomware hits you and encrypts your files. Offline backups (say to disk) are a nice safety net there (or drive a sync between NAS devices on demand, for example).

You can also do this amongst friends if you're so inclined; I used to use CrashPlan when it had a free tier to backup in a circle of friends/family.
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Re: Setting up home server and network

For photo and video - consider MDisc. It's blu-ray discs with a lifetime of around 1000 years that hold about 100MB.

Gather all video and photos
Eliminate duplicates (There's good free software for this).
Arrange in yyyy-mm according to when they were created. (Videos I give a descriptive name).
When you've got about 100MB, burn baby burn.

In the meantime, get a NAS. Start backups to the NAS.

Everyone should have a gdrive or onedisc, and all their document should be on that. (This is automatic cloud backup).

I care most about video and photos. Everything else - anything more than 3 years old, is trash. If you need help with the NAS or MDisc, pm me.
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Old 22.09.2020, 19:09
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Re: Setting up home server and network

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NAS is not the backup.
Oh no. So that means back in the early 90s, when we copied the contents of our disks to tape every night, that wasn't backup either.

Total nonsense. NAS in a separate location can be exactly backup.
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Total nonsense. NAS in a separate location can be exactly backup.
Please read this nonce again and tell us what does it have with NAS=backup? Op is asking about central storage device, and that automatically nullify it as a backup.

NAS = network attached storage, it's not NAB (a word that doesn't exist).

When you use something as a storage device it's a storage (read what OP is asking).
When you copy something somewhere from storage device, it's backup.
What is this on the other side it's not important, it can be in a shape of NAS, single disk, billions of hamsters writing 0 and 1 with hazelnuts, whatever, it doesn't matter.
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Re: Setting up home server and network

I would strongly consider FreeNAS.

Also, I strongly doubt you can damage a disk these days by having a magnet near it.

The disks are well shielded and the magnet would need to be so strong that it would be a danger to the person/child playing with it to begin with.
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Re: Setting up home server and network

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I would strongly consider FreeNAS.
If you're in IT or have some kind of IT skills, maybe - but for regular Joe's home use this would be largely counterproductive. There is little benefit that can be gained from FreeNAS over the solutions implemented by QNAP/Synlogy and the later can be managed with close to 0 IT skills.
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Re: Setting up home server and network

This regular Joe has almost 20 Xpenology instances for friends and fam. Hardware agnostic Synology DSM VMs running on an old Microserver on top of Linux. Offsite backups via Rsync.
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Re: Setting up home server and network

I have a Linux PC in the basement stuffed full of disks and I use Samba to provide access to the various PCs, Macs etc in the house. It also houses Kodi media library, PC backups, photos etc and runs pi-hole. All backed up nightly over VPN to a NAS in our house back in the UK. Works well.
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Unix, Mac, or that other guy ... ?
The other guy...

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So first, you want to excavate an extra basement where the datacenter will be located...
Every Swiss house has that bunker. Clear a little space in that wine cooling system and kill two birds with one stone...

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Very important advice!

My backup strategy is a little old fashioned. I use a "large-enough" external hard drive which I sync every now and then. I keep it in a different place than the main server.

Whatever your backup strategy is, remember to test a recovery from time to time. You don't want to be in need of recovering a backup and find out that for the past 6 months you've been writing on a silently degrading backup drive...
That’s what I had & did, but 1) it stopped working (won’t connect) and 2) life is more complex with more older children...

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If you need help with the NAS or MDisc, pm me.
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