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22.01.2021, 19:02
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| | New offer of Salt, "fixed" line internet/TV over mobile/wireless 4G/5G, " Gigabox "
New offer of Salt, "fixed" line internet/TV over mobile/wireless 4G/5G, named " Gigabox "
For the same price as the salt fiber, now salt home, offer. 39.95/49.95 CHF/mo. Includes the same stuff, TV etc., it's the analogous thing over mobile, minus the fixed telephone line I guess. Via external antenna, should be noted. That is, with the antenna internal it might also work, with decreased throughput. https://fiber.salt.ch/sites/default/...Gigabox-EN.pdf https://fiber.salt.ch/en/home/equipment/gigabox
manual: https://fiber.salt.ch/sites/default/...-UserGuide.PDF
Of course restricted to the covered area, this map gives an idea where 5G is available: https://fiber.salt.ch/de/mobile/5g-coverage
I guess the area with 4G is much larger.
Ups, additional restriction: "If the fiber is not available in your home, then and only then, you will be offered access to Salt Home via 5G and 4G+ with the Salt GigaBox."
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23.01.2021, 09:31
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| | Re: New offer of Salt, "fixed" line internet/TV over mobile/wireless 4G/5G, " Gigabox
Does this offer include constant Bombardement of 5G signals? | 
25.01.2021, 20:43
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| | Re: New offer of Salt, "fixed" line internet/TV over mobile/wireless 4G/5G, " Gigabox | Quote: | |  | | | Does this offer include constant Bombardement of 5G signals?  | | | | | You could always protect yourself from the radiation, with a product like this one!
Just don't complain when you get poor wifi ...
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26.01.2021, 09:00
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| | Re: New offer of Salt, "fixed" line internet/TV over mobile/wireless 4G/5G, " Gigabox | Quote: | |  | | | You could always protect yourself from the radiation, with a product like this one!
Just don't complain when you get poor wifi ... | | | | |
Haha I saw the IFLS post on FB about this a while ago where the 5G conspiracy nuts were complaining about faraday cages actually working as intended | This user would like to thank Spaceghost for this useful post: | | 
26.01.2021, 09:34
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| | Re: New offer of Salt, "fixed" line internet/TV over mobile/wireless 4G/5G, " Gigabox
I would like to hear from anyone who previously used Salt via phone and now took the gigabox.
I have Salt SIM, on Huawei P40 Pro I get 50Mbps/40Mbps on average on 4G, but sometimes late in the night it peaked over 100Mbps.
Recently I took UPC Gigabox, when it's ON with WiFi5ac, the Salt speed drops to ~30Mbps max.
I just wonder if a specialized modem with external antenna would be much better. It seems that nearby WiFi5 might have a significant impact on 4G reception. There's a lot of other WiFi networks around me.
Is it even possible to reach 400Mbps download on 4G? I mean, I bet it's the advertised link speed but the actual useful data inside it (the internet data) would be lower. And if you're confused between Mbps vs MBps, dividing by 10 is usually a good approximation, so theoretically 4G allows to download at 40MB ps speed. By the way, what's the theoretical upload speed on 4G?
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26.01.2021, 11:10
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| | Re: New offer of Salt, "fixed" line internet/TV over mobile/wireless 4G/5G, " Gigabox | Quote: | |  | | | I just wonder if a specialized modem with external antenna would be much better. | | | | | In general, it is highly likely that an external antenna will be better, maybe even "much" better". Will surely depend on the grade of "exposition" of that antenna. If there is a direct straight connection in one line with a 4G/5G provider antenna there should be best chances of an improved throughput.
As for the advertised "up to" speeds for 4G/5G of max. 400/1000 Mbit, I surely would not bet at all to reach them -if ever- on regular base. It's just the usual mouthwatering advertising. Unlike fixed lines, those wireless 4G/5G provider antennas all run at their capacity limits in rush-hours IMO.
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26.01.2021, 12:42
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| | Re: New offer of Salt, "fixed" line internet/TV over mobile/wireless 4G/5G, " Gigabox | Quote: | |  | | | Is it even possible to reach 400Mbps download on 4G? I mean, I bet it's the advertised link speed but the actual useful data inside it (the internet data) would be lower. And if you're confused between Mbps vs MBps, dividing by 10 is usually a good approximation, so theoretically 4G allows to download at 40MB ps speed. By the way, what's the theoretical upload speed on 4G? | | | | | I had a Yallo (aka Sunrise) 4G box in my flat between Jan-Sep 2020. I'm literally 20 metres from the nearest antenna (I can see it from my balcony on the next block). I'd get a max of 90-100Mbit very early AM and more like 20-30Mbit at lunchtime when local kids are hammering it and maybe 30-50 in an evening most of the time. I was only using the box near a window with no external extra antenna.
Fine in most cases for streaming Netflix and so on but in no way a long term replacement for a decent fixed connection (which I now have).
Upload-wise I'd usually speed test around 30-40Mbit.
Note that really bad weather like heavy rain and especially snow also impacts the signal quite a bit too.
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26.01.2021, 22:57
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| | Re: New offer of Salt, "fixed" line internet/TV over mobile/wireless 4G/5G, " Gigabox
That's generally my experience. However I'm not sure (1) if my phone is capable to max out the connection and (2) my data plan is not throttled (even if it's advertised as unlimited), and (3) the BTS I am connected to has the capacity to provide full speed to everyone.
Since you got a dedicated hardware and a "gigabit" plan, I believe this is the real life performance of 4G network (100Mbps max, 50Mbps most likely).
Thank you for the details, much appreciated! | Quote: | |  | | | I had a Yallo (aka Sunrise) 4G box in my flat between Jan-Sep 2020. I'm literally 20 metres from the nearest antenna (I can see it from my balcony on the next block). I'd get a max of 90-100Mbit very early AM and more like 20-30Mbit at lunchtime when local kids are hammering it and maybe 30-50 in an evening most of the time. I was only using the box near a window with no external extra antenna.
Fine in most cases for streaming Netflix and so on but in no way a long term replacement for a decent fixed connection (which I now have).
Upload-wise I'd usually speed test around 30-40Mbit.
Note that really bad weather like heavy rain and especially snow also impacts the signal quite a bit too. | | | | | | This user would like to thank Gravity for this useful post: | |
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