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Old 02.02.2021, 14:30
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I've only ever used FB and Whatsapp when it's been used for Ski School messaging, the others never, but I've never really got my head around why anyone would use them for anything other than large group discussions.

What's wrong with SMS? If you just want to "chat with your friend" surely there's nothing easier or more private?
WhatsApp allows you to phone and video message round the world for free. Most of my incoming and outgoing calls are WA ones.

You can also send voice messages that are much quicker and more personal than typing.

You can see if your message has been received and also when it is read. You can see if the other party is online and if they are in the process of typing or dictating a reply.

I would say I use WA more than email and I don’t find the security “worries” enough to warrant a banding WA for yet another messaging service.

You can ask WA to send you all the info they have on you. It takes 3 days, I don’t know why because it’s not much...
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Old 02.02.2021, 14:54
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thanks that was well explained sensei -one more question if you don't mind...so instead of FB do you recommend another network? I really miss Google+ (was so sad when that was taken away)
the one your friends are on?

in the end what you post online is gone from your control and should be thought of as such. Think Before You Click (TBYC)
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Old 02.02.2021, 15:11
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What's wrong with SMS? If you just want to "chat with your friend" surely there's nothing easier or more private?
This is one of the most hilarious things I have read all day, thanks for cheering me up Ace. I will also refrain from any light-hearted "Ok boomer" memes.
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Old 02.02.2021, 20:35
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This is one of the most hilarious things I have read all day, thanks for cheering me up Ace. I will also refrain from any light-hearted "Ok boomer" memes.
Oh, come on. Memes are so much fun! Ace1 is a good sport too so he won't mind (too much).
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Old 02.02.2021, 23:32
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If I can't semophore it, I'm not interested. These Baby Boomers and their new fangled technologies...
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Re: Hidden Chat/Messaging App

If that was an app idea validation, better one would be an app that keeps the history/chats/contacts encrypted unless you prove your access by NFC key, USB key, fingerprint every 30 seconds... sort of that
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Re: Hidden Chat/Messaging App

Yes, I remember a conference talk which opened my eyes - it really doesn't matter what the messages are when you build a map of organized crime, you just look at who's talking with whom at what frequency - you quickly get a head(s) of each group and the contact points (links/messenger guys) between those organizations. So you see, the messages can be encrypted, forever private, because in reality it doesn't matter and it would be a waste of time and money to process them in real time on a global scale.


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I believe most of the main stream messaging services have end to end encryption,meaning no one reads your messages. The problems with What’s app vs Signal is the amount of other information about your device, e-mail address, contacts (from your Contacts app), location, etc. that they collect AND share with google which also collects said data.

Google knows who you are, where you are, where you have been, the web location you came from, the web location you bo to next, what you have bought and possibly posts you have made here.
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Old 03.02.2021, 20:26
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the App being punted in this thread.

Signal is solid, I would take that over Telegram.

and lol at Ace1, Wikipedia reference-linkSignalling_System_No._7 offers absolutely no guarantee of delivery (certainly no confirmation), no confidentiality, no integrity. I would only use it if I was sticking with Wikipedia reference-linkT9_(predictive_text).

Threema is where the cool kids are, very secure. With nobody to talk to
<<Telegram rolled its own protocol (MTProto) and I don't see clear evidence of audits.>> this. And Telegram is only encrypted if you use the "secret chat" feature.

Threema: Feeling very cool now and yes, rather lonely so far. But Signal cheers me up for the time being.
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Old 03.02.2021, 20:31
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Threema: Feeling very cool now and yes, rather lonely so far. But Signal cheers me up for the time being.
Want my cell phone no to cheer you up? Am on both

You should actually have it.... :-)
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Old 03.02.2021, 20:48
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Re: Hidden Chat/Messaging App

In the NYT today there is an article comparing Telegram to Signal. One big difference is that Signal limits message forwarding to 5, at a time, while telegram has no limit.

Meaning spreading misinformation is facilitated by Telegram. The NYT was unable to get a comment from Telegram on this point.

What’s app bowed to pressure some months ago and limits forwarding to 5 at a time
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Old 03.02.2021, 21:28
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Want my cell phone no to cheer you up? Am on both

You should actually have it.... :-)
Yes I see you there. I don't remember if that was a one-sided info exchange back then, so I'll set that right now. On threema of course, not on EF
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