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Old 01.04.2021, 21:52
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Re: M1 Macbook, or Thinkpad X1 Carbon

No contest, get an M1. It is lightyears ahead of anything else on the market. Battery duration will flabberghast you and not even talking about the speed.

Only reason for going for the X1 Carbon (which is a great device), is if you are fully locked in the Windows world. Mind, if you get the M1 you will likely get locked into the Apple world
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Re: M1 Macbook, or Thinkpad X1 Carbon

My biggest problem with the current M1's (Air and Pro) is that they only manage one external display. To me, that's a dealbreaker...
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Old 02.04.2021, 09:05
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No contest, get an M1. It is lightyears ahead of anything else on the market. Battery duration will flabberghast you and not even talking about the speed.

Only reason for going for the X1 Carbon (which is a great device), is if you are fully locked in the Windows world. Mind, if you get the M1 you will likely get locked into the Apple world
I use macpro for private and dell precision e5550 for professional work. M1 may be an options in years to come but version-1 isn't something for me.

some short list of ARM M1 supported apps https://isapplesiliconready.com

likely many other professional apps will follow .. however be ready to be surprised that some pice of software isn't available and may never be - myself still using Catalina as some 32-bit apps onboard won't ever be 64bit and. I still use them.

MacMini may be nice ... to try M1 - and does support up to 6-external screens it seems

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Re: M1 Macbook, or Thinkpad X1 Carbon

The M1 is really the lowest end of the food-chain.

I mean, it basically replaces the i3 in the MBA.

The fact that it often blows away mid-level Ryzens is a bit of a shock.

It will be interesting to see how they can come up with a solution for > 16GB RAM and more cores while keeping memory-performance high.

As I said, I wanted 32GB and x86 virtualization (and I run 2*4k displays) so even if the M1 had been available in Spring last year, it wouldn't have been a very good solution.
I also like the 4 TB ports of the 2018 Mini.
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Old 03.04.2021, 17:26
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The M1 is really the lowest end of the food-chain.

I mean, it basically replaces the i3 in the MBA.

The fact that it often blows away mid-level Ryzens is a bit of a shock.

It will be interesting to see how they can come up with a solution for > 16GB RAM and more cores while keeping memory-performance high.

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do you have any evidence to back up that statement ?
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Old 03.04.2021, 18:20
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Which statement do you refer to?
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Old 03.04.2021, 19:14
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Which statement do you refer to?

Usually that goes for all quoted ?
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Old 06.04.2021, 18:03
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Re: M1 Macbook, or Thinkpad X1 Carbon

The M1 at the moment is rather limited as it can only run OSX and you cannot run other operating systems. Also the Apple laptops have dreadful keyboards. I am sure that other manufacturers will very quickly find ways to compete with the overall performance of the M1 and with the advantage that you will not be limited by a single OS and the Apple hardware.

I would go with the Lenovo as it is a better bet for the future and review in a few years time. To be honest it is along time since I have seen a slow computer and battery life is only important if you are travelling a lot with the machine.
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Old 06.04.2021, 20:13
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My professional laptop would last up to 5h without doing much on it and sometimes when I close the lid it wouldn't go to sleep - so coupe hours later after lunch and so visiting customer I'd find I ran out of juice - not a perfect start.

That has never happened with macbook I use - not in last 12-years and 3-laptops .

Booting macbookpro into Windows results in same battery issues so it's in fact MacOS that makes energy management so efficient and my life much less stressful.
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Old 06.04.2021, 21:04
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Re: M1 Macbook, or Thinkpad X1 Carbon

I have a Thinkpad X1 Extreme, and its basically the same model but with some spec differences. In terms of power, the computer will almost do anything you need a laptop to do, and it is fairly durable. The major downside to the laptop is that its more of a work station than a mobile laptop. The battery drains quite quickly, and it tends to overhead quite a bit. It also has a very loud fan noise, all you have to do is google fan noise Thinkpad X1.
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The M1 at the moment is rather limited as it can only run OSX and you cannot run other operating systems. Also the Apple laptops have dreadful keyboards. I am sure that other manufacturers will very quickly find ways to compete with the overall performance of the M1 and with the advantage that you will not be limited by a single OS and the Apple hardware.
They fixed the keyboard being crap with the 2019 MBP or at least vastly improved it.

In terms of comparisons, Intel already tried this recently comparing all sorts of random crap to try and somehow prove they were remotely in the game.

https://www.theverge.com/2021/2/8/22...rks-processors

It really was laughable. Picking a game benchmark and going 'can't run on Mac' for some of them to say Intel is better

I can't wait to see what Apple come out with for the next the Mx ARM Mac Pro to replace my 2013 Mac Pro dustbin - that will be the big jump I reckon.
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Old 07.04.2021, 16:50
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They fixed the keyboard being crap with the 2019 MBP or at least vastly improved it.
They still haven't fix the retarded "Caps Lock", but hey, it's a feature.
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Old 07.04.2021, 20:35
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Re: M1 Macbook, or Thinkpad X1 Carbon

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X1 Nano, especially if we're talking Linux. Macs make crap Unix boxes, all eye candy and no substance
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Old 07.04.2021, 20:59
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X1 Nano, especially if we're talking Linux. Macs make crap Unix boxes, all eye candy and no substance
Dell XPS 13
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Dell XPS 13
XPS 13 is a competitor to X1 Carbon. But Dell has nothing to take on the superior X1 Nano yet.
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Old 08.04.2021, 07:48
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XPS 13 is a competitor to X1 Carbon. But Dell has nothing to take on the superior X1 Nano yet.
I wouldn't know - while 4K screen is absolutely great and sole reason to consider it - and its cheaper google suggests
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Old 08.04.2021, 10:34
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Re: M1 Macbook, or Thinkpad X1 Carbon

I have a 2nd gen X1 Carbon. It’s an i7 and pretty darn snappy, even after all these years.

My main daily is a Surface Pro 7 as I wanted touch and a casual tablet experience sometimes. As long as there is a gap between iPadOS and MacOS, I will stay in my holding pattern (I have an iPad Air 4 too)
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I wouldn't know - while 4K screen is absolutely great and sole reason to consider it - and its cheaper google suggests
4K on a laptop is an overkill and a huge power hog. X1 Nano hits the sweet spot of ~200dpi 2K - that's still pretty high res and crisp, essentially same dpi as a desktop 4K monitor, while drawing significantly less juice from the battery than full 4K
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Old 08.04.2021, 17:05
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4K on a laptop is an overkill and a huge power hog. X1 Nano hits the sweet spot of ~200dpi 2K - that's still pretty high res and crisp, essentially same dpi as a desktop 4K monitor, while drawing significantly less juice from the battery than full 4K
yeh - why would I want 4K and 500nits brightness when you can have half of it - I can't see the difference ...or can I ?

Sole reason to use XPS is the screen - like for Macbook is battery life (and few more maybe)

and it has a touchscreen ( there is all sorts of people out there that still like to point things with a finger it seems)
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Re: M1 Macbook, or Thinkpad X1 Carbon

Hi defcon3 what have you eventually decided?


I am in a similar situation, being a mac user for more than a decade.


I am thinking about a laptop with 32GB RAM/1TB SSD and not happy to spend 3k for a Macbook 14, that is a beast, but frankly I believe M1 pro is not for me that I need virtualization and so forth.


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