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Swype Surf (15 CHF) for home broadband?

Hi all,

I'm considering using a 4G WiFi router and a Swype Surf data-only SIM for 15 CHF/month in the house I'm moving to soon.

It is advertised as unlimited data and I do like a good deal.

Is this a dumb idea? Does unlimited mean it's actually limited? Maybe there's a limit on simultaneous TCP streams? I think I'd be using around 200-300GB/month (mostly due to the kids watching VoD).

My temporary housing has fibre and I'm getting 50Mbps over wifi while sitting next to the router (via https://testmy.net) so I'm not impressed.
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Hi all,

I'm considering using a 4G WiFi router and a Swype Surf data-only SIM for 15 CHF/month in the house I'm moving to soon.

It is advertised as unlimited data and I do like a good deal.

Is this a dumb idea? Does unlimited mean it's actually limited? Maybe there's a limit on simultaneous TCP streams? I think I'd be using around 200-300GB/month (mostly due to the kids watching VoD).

My temporary housing has fibre and I'm getting 50Mbps over wifi while sitting next to the router (via https://testmy.net) so I'm not impressed.
It is the first time I hear swype and sounds like a good deal.
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Re: Swype Surf (15 CHF) for home broadband?

Are you sure you have unlimited data and not throttled after 10GB?
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My temporary housing has fibre and I'm getting 50Mbps over wifi while sitting next to the router (via https://testmy.net) so I'm not impressed.
You really ought to test over ethernet direct from the router to rule out any wifi problems you may not be aware of.

You are highly unlikely to get more than 50Mbps with 4G in real-life usage and quite possibly you'll get a lot less.

Having said all that you can cancel when you want so maybe just go for it and see what happens.
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Are you sure you have unlimited data and not throttled after 10GB?
First deprioritisation at approximately 40GB. More info from here below.

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3. NETWORK MANAGEMENT IN THE CASE OF EXCESSIVE USE
Unlimited services generally grant unlimited* use, as long as unusual and excessive use is not maintained over a longer period of time.
Excessive use of mobile network services can cause capacity problems and impair network performance, which has a direct effect on other mobile network customers‘ user experience. In order to prevent this situation, swype will temporarily depri- oritize the 4G and 4G+ data traffic of customers who reach a certain limit value:

• First deprioritization: A first deprioritization is carried out for customers whose monthly data usage is higher than 97% of all other customers, based on an average determined on a quarterly basis (status Sept. 2019: approx. 40 GB per month).

• Second deprioritization: An additional deprioritization is car- ried out within the same month for customers whose monthly data usage is higher than 99.98% of all other customers, based on an average determined on a quarterly basis (sta- tus Sept. 2019: approx. 500 GB per month).
Customers whose data has been deprioritized may notice reduced mobile speed at locations and times of day when the mobile network is overloaded this generally only becomes noticeable when carrying out more dataintensive activities. On antenna cells that are not overloaded, deprioritization will have no effect on broadband speed.

The first deprioritization will occur as soon as the specified limit value has been reached in a certain month. If the second limit value is reached in the same month, then the second deprioritization will occur.
swype reserves the right to take additional measures in ad- dition to the second deprioritization, such as a throttle data speed in the entire network on a case-by-case basis.

At the beginning of the next month, the customer‘s use status is reset and deprioritization completely reversed.
Also, swype may undertake other network management measures as well as product, use, or country-specific prioriti- zations if such prioritizations are necessary in order to main- tain stable network availability.
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First deprioritisation at approximately 40GB. More info from here below.
Great info, thanks!

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On antenna cells that are not overloaded, deprioritization will have no effect on broadband speed
given that I'll be living in a tiny village (Crans), I now need to figure out if we have our own cell or if we share one with something bigger (Nyon)
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Re: Swype Surf (15 CHF) for home broadband?

Since swype would use the Sunrise network, do make sure to check the network coverage
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You really ought to test over ethernet direct from the router to rule out any wifi problems you may not be aware of.

You are highly unlikely to get more than 50Mbps with 4G in real-life usage and quite possibly you'll get a lot less.

Having said all that you can cancel when you want so maybe just go for it and see what happens.
Ok, I tested my SwissCom fiber over an ethernet cable and I got the same result. I don't know what kind of subscription this place has, but it seems like a waste of expensive hardware.

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Since swype would use the Sunrise network, do make sure to check the network coverage
Right, I'll go check it out with nPerf. If I can get sustained >50Mbps down and >5Mbps up that's sufficient, anything else is a bonus really. The important thing is that it shouldn't fluctuate.
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