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Old 11.04.2007, 21:01
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Re: What BitTorrent client are you using?

Latest Azureus on Mac OS X 10.4.9
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Old 11.04.2007, 21:03
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If I were the copyright holders of major shows I would just maintain seeds and put out loads of corrupt files with my shows name on them.. how many corrupt files will people bother downloading before going and looking for something else.

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This is supposedly done already. Another one is to distribute a torrent as a set of RAR archive files, but withhold one of the pieces.
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Old 11.04.2007, 21:09
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Which platform are you running on? My mate who runs Azureus on a Mac gets annoyed that his computer and bandwidth all grind to a halt. Heck, when Azureus is running, he can't even use VLC to watch a movie. Pah.
Ask your mate to try tuning his Azureus. Install the IRC plugin and go to the support forum. I must say that it took my mate, an Azureus user on a Mac, three sessions of a couple of hours each to get things tuned and ship shape and at the same time understand what he'd done.

My mate doesn't know whether that is something to do with Azureus or BitTorrent in general.
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Re: What BitTorrent client are you using?

I use KTorrent
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Old 11.04.2007, 21:50
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Re: What BitTorrent client are you using?

Usenet, beats the hell out of torrents. Giganews specifically.
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Re: What BitTorrent client are you using?

I use transmission, it's very basic but it works. I first thought if I made the upload rate low I would download quicker, but I was wrong, I put the upload at 40 and my download went from 10 to 60!!!

I had someone tell me (and the whole message board) that the goverment tracks what you download and if you download too much you go to jail, made me
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Re: What BitTorrent client are you using?

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Usenet, beats the hell out of torrents. Giganews specifically.

Because you only download this is totaly legal in Switzerland. The SKS released a document yesterday. So happy leeching
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Old 12.04.2007, 09:05
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Usenet, beats the hell out of torrents. Giganews specifically.
Agreed Bittorrent is soooooooooooo 5 years ago, its all usenet now, baby!!
Not used Giganews, I use Easynews, or newzbin.com. You have to pay but you'll use all your download bandwidth, and if you stick a download manager in there like Reget my mate can get an entire episode of Lost down in 6 minutes.

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Re: What BitTorrent client are you using?

You mean UseNext that my mate has mentioned to me that he sees on some websites?
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Old 12.04.2007, 09:32
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Re: What BitTorrent client are you using?

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Because you only download this is totaly legal in Switzerland. The SKS released a document yesterday. So happy leeching
In the document you mention it states :
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5) Darf ich selber auf einer Tauschbörse Musik und Filme zur Verfügung stellen (uploaden)?

Wie in Frage 3 erläutert, ist es illegal, Musik und Filme ohne Erlaubnis der Urheber ins Netz zu stellen. So handeln auch Sie als Konsument illegal, wenn Sie Ihre Musik oder Filme für jedermann frei zugänglich ins Internet stellen (hochladen/uploaden).

Das heisst: Sie dürfen nur downloaden, nicht aber uploaden. In der Praxis ist es komplizierter: Einige Tauschbörsen kennen Einstellungen, bei denen Sie während des Downloads automatisch und gleichzeitig die bereits downgeloadeten Musik-stücke wieder hochladen. Dagegen können Sie sich manchmal auf zwei Arten schützen:

Verschieben Sie die downgeloadeten Stücke nach dem Download sofort in einen anderen Ordner auf Ihrer Festplatte. Oftmals beginnt jedoch der Upload bereits während des Downloads. Somit bewegen Sie sich rechtlich in der Grauzone.

In wenigen Fällen können Sie die vorgegebene Einstellung der Tauschbörse ändern: Geben Sie an, dass Sie selber nichts uploaden. So wird der Upload blockiert. Zwar ist dies nicht der Sinn von Tauschbörsen. Hingegen sind Sie rechtlich im sicheren Bereich.
Doesnt this then mean that downloading using bit torrent isnt totally legal as part of the process is once the file is downloaded it automatically seeds and you are then technically making it available to the masses?????

Correct me if I'm wrong?
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Old 12.04.2007, 09:49
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Re: What BitTorrent client are you using?

I think he was talking about usenet not being illegal, not bittorrent.

I used to use ABC (yet another bittorrent client) but that was a good while ago.



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Old 12.04.2007, 10:24
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Re: What BitTorrent client are you using?

I see.

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Old 12.04.2007, 10:50
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Re: What BitTorrent client are you using?

utorrent is the best and fastest. try it and u won't regret it.
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Re: What BitTorrent client are you using?

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In the document you mention it states :

Doesnt this then mean that downloading using bit torrent isnt totally legal as part of the process is once the file is downloaded it automatically seeds and you are then technically making it available to the masses?????


Correct me if I'm wrong?
Bit torrent is technically an algorithm not a program. It functions by downloading random chunks of a file while at the same time uploading random chunks to others. Unless everybody else is "seeding" a file (meaning has 100% of it and is sharing it), you are almost always uploading parts of the file you are downloading. Effectively, the algorithm works by rewarding uploading client applications by offering more download connections.

There are dozens of bit torrent applications out there. Your Bit Torrent application may or may not allow you to remove the "seed" feature once you have finished downloading 100% of your file. If it doesn't I recommend you find one that does. This bypasses and legal issues, for the most part, because even though you have uploaded random parts of some unknown file, you never had the complete file during this time and never were aware of the contents. Don't feel bad about not seeding either, because torrenting can work fine even if theres not a single seed out there (presuming all the clients as a whole has at least 1 full copy spread among them).
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Old 12.04.2007, 11:22
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Re: What BitTorrent client are you using?

Mkkangas, are you saying that, if you cease seeding the moment that your download hits 100%, then it is totally legal in Switzerland?

I've looked at Bittorrent, but have been put off by the legal issue.

Does anyone know of anyone prosecuted as a result of downloading copyrighted material, in Switzerland?

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Old 12.04.2007, 11:28
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Re: What BitTorrent client are you using?

I believe the only people either prosecuted or given cease-and-desist orders are heavy seeders. Leechers are harder to track in some ways (think dynamic IPs, lower volumes of traffic, etc)
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Re: What BitTorrent client are you using?

The entire point of a torrent though is that you should have a 1:1 ratio.
100% downloaded 100% uploaded.
If you just leech off others you will pretty soon find yourself kicked off a lot of torrents.
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Re: What BitTorrent client are you using?

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The entire point of a torrent though is that you should have a 1:1 ratio.
100% downloaded 100% uploaded.
If you just leech off others you will pretty soon find yourself kicked off a lot of torrents.
Spot on, if you download a file and move it to another location you'll soon be banned from the torrent sites.....

Oh well, I suppose that's the way it's gotta be....
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Re: What BitTorrent client are you using?

you cannot really avoid seeding if you're leeching ....
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Re: What BitTorrent client are you using?

Just a note that if your firewall/router box tends to crash when using a bittorrent client, try turning "upnp" support in your client preferences to "off". This solved my friend's problem with her linksys router, which would crash every couple of hours if azereus was running.

(Though it does mean she has to be savvy enough to set up port redirection manually.)
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