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Old 27.01.2009, 16:54
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DIY Home Video Surveillance

So following a break in at our holiday home (luckily minor damage and loss), I've been investigating a home security system. We dont keep precious things there so there are no insurance type issues. Ive looked at the remote monitoring/alarm setup, but am tending towards the deterrent of a semi remote video system.

I'm not an IT specialist, although I've built PCs and home networks before... here's what I've come up with so far (attachment). It's not totally failsafe and redundant but should offer some degree of tamper protection and high stability thanks to the dedicated video server etc. It would be located in a hard to access loft. The power and phone lines into the house are overhead, albeit from a well lit road.

Comments much appreciated either on the setup or the overall concept vs alarm based security.

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Old 27.01.2009, 16:58
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Actually I have no first hand information on surveillance camera usage in Switzerland but have heard from others that positioning of cameras can be very tricky here as neighbors can file a formal complaint that they are being spied on. You might want to check further before making any large investments in such a system.
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Re: DIY Home Video Surveillance

First I would ask myself what good does a surveillance system serve.

IMHO: nothing other than having a video of your house being broken into.

You need some deterrent: timed lights, fake cameras, beware of dog signs, at most a siren to scare away thiefs if they break a window.

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So following a break in at our holiday home (luckily minor damage and loss), I've been investigating a home security system. We dont keep precious things there so there are no insurance type issues. Ive looked at the remote monitoring/alarm setup, but am tending towards the deterrent of a semi remote video system.

I'm not an IT specialist, although I've built PCs and home networks before... here's what I've come up with so far (attachment). It's not totally failsafe and redundant but should offer some degree of tamper protection and high stability thanks to the dedicated video server etc. It would be located in a hard to access loft. The power and phone lines into the house are overhead, albeit from a well lit road.

Comments much appreciated either on the setup or the overall concept vs alarm based security.

Daniel
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Old 27.01.2009, 17:08
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Re: DIY Home Video Surveillance

@vwild. Luckily they wouldnt overlook anyone else (a rarity in Switzerland).

@mariezug. Indeed but if the power or phone line (adsl internet) are cut that's it.. plus we only have limited upload (1000/100 max available for now) which is way too low to stream all 4 cameras, so we need a combination of local storage and some internet access (eg email warnings of events, selected footage upload etc).

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A simple way would be to use a handy to send MMS/MMS when the camera detects a change. Then no telephone lines involved.
Good thought... for sure your general question is do we really need gigs of video footage or just the trigger and a few images.

I will probably buy the camera first, explore the potential and limitations. Pan and tilt are good thoughts too. Might be better to get a small number of more flexible units... does it patrol and motion detect simultaneously.

The house is an old one, and has 7 doors on the ground floor and about 10 windows all single glazed with low security blinds... they had many choices.

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Re: DIY Home Video Surveillance

Hi,

I'm no security expert by any means, but I have messed around with some home surveillance stuff. I think your setup is pretty good, my only worry in such a scenario is that someone _will_ walk off with the incriminating evidence, ie your recordings.

For comparison, I've recently setup a Soekris net5501 (http://www.soekris.com) with a 100GB disk to run Linux, installed Motion (http://www.lavrsen.dk/twiki/bin/view/Motion/WebHome) and pointed a USB camera at my living room. Motion can use both IP and USB cameras, and at a glance, can be configured to do all the things the QNAP 101 does(http://www.linux.com/feature/114118). For example, I've set mine up to only capture snapshots and movies of actual movement, then send me alerts. The better thing, though, is that you can also set it up in conjunction with a service like Amazon's S3 and have your snapshots and movies stored there (http://shapeshed.com/journal/automat...n_s3_on_linux/), thus avoiding the previously mentioned scenario. Unlike the QNAP, you also have no limit on how many cameras you can add to it, although a beefier machine than the Soekris would be needed for large numbers.

One last thing, your cameras should probably be infrared-capable, and should either incorporate an infrared light, or have a source close-by, because even if your lights go out, you want to still have an idea of what the perps looked like.

Hope this helps,

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Re: DIY Home Video Surveillance

Thanks for all the input.

Ive been trialling an IR capable Vivotek dome camera and have been pretty impressed. The depth of field can a bit low, but that is the converse of having low light capability before the IR switches in. The camera itself has a pretty decent integrated server including the motion detection and event management (ie emailing, saving stills and video etc).

Hopefully tomorrow I'll receive a second external IP66 weatherproof IR camera and a QNAP 109 home NAS (which includes 2 camera recorder software). I will then be able to test the whole thing. Maybe the NAS server is superfluous, in which case I'll us it for, well, a home NAS.

Ive got it all running over an UPS, cameras powered via a Power over Ethernet enabled switch which should make wiring easy and eliminate short term mains dependence. It all talks to the internet access point via a wireless bridge. Once Ive got it all set up I'll see what the no mains power autonomy is.

I think I can get a decent amount of physical security by hiding it in a cluttered loft. The idea is really just to keep it running long enough that I get a warning and visual confirmation of unwanted guests before they "pull the plug" if they are that keen.

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Old 03.02.2009, 22:42
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Hopefully tomorrow I'll receive a second external IP66 weatherproof IR camera and a QNAP 109 home NAS
Ironically popular items in a home burglary..

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Ive got it all running over an UPS, cameras powered via a Power over Ethernet enabled switch which should make wiring easy and eliminate short term mains dependence. It all talks to the internet access point via a wireless bridge. Once Ive got it all set up I'll see what the no mains power autonomy is.

I think I can get a decent amount of physical security by hiding it in a cluttered loft. The idea is really just to keep it running long enough that I get a warning and visual confirmation of unwanted guests before they "pull the plug" if they are that keen.
Are you going to hide the UPS with it?

The alarm will be going off if they cut the power, I wonder if this would be a good deterrent.

In terms of off line storage, you could just email anything automatically to a gmail account.

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