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Semi-techie questions about Swisscom Infinity internet/Bluewin

Hi all,

I am about to move into a new place where there is no Cablecom (might be a blessing in disguise!).

My choices for high-speed internet are Sunrise ADSL and Swisscom Infinity.

I am leaning towards the Swisscom offer, as it's faster and you can add Bluewin TV as part of a package.

However, annoyingly, Swisscom forces you to take a wireless router with their Swisscom Infinity internet offering - you don't have the choice of getting JUST a standard modem.

I hate routers as I have always had problems with them in the past, so before I take the leap, I ahve some questions about Swisscom INfinity:


1) Is port-forwarding on the Swisscom Infinity router straighforward and simple? This is a biggie for me as I have had trouble with routers and port-forwarding before.

2) "Officially", no other modem or router will work with the internet signal Swisscom provides, hence why you have to use they provide you. However, do any third-party modems (NOT routers) work with the Swisscom internet signal that comes through the phone line? I think I read you only need to use Swisscom's router if you buy the BluewinTV package as well. I which case, question 1 becomes relevant. But if someone could clarify for me, that's be awesome.


If anyone can help with my questions, I'd be very grateful.

Many thanks!
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Old 24.06.2009, 20:41
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However, annoyingly, Swisscom forces you to take a wireless router with their Swisscom Infinity internet offering - you don't have the choice of getting JUST a standard modem.
There's a switch on that router to turn off the wireless if you don't need it.
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Re: Semi-techie questions about Swisscom Infinity internet/Bluewin

Hi,

Thanks for your reply.

I figured there would be such a switch, but the problem is that even if you switch of wireless it would still act as a router (albeit via cable), and therefore port-forwarding would be necessary.

So if anyone happens to know if it is easy to forward ports on it, that would be great. or even better if one can switch over the Swisscom device for a htird-party one from MediaMarkt or wherever!

Cheers!
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Old 24.06.2009, 21:51
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Re: Semi-techie questions about Swisscom Infinity internet/Bluewin

Swisscom Infinity is using VDSL, unfortunately there are only very few VDSL modems/routers available on the market as most of the other countries use ADSL. At least Zyxel has a VDSL router but it is expensive.

As far as I know Swisscom provides you with a Motorola/Netopia modem. I used it's ADSL sibling for a while, and must say it's quite a good product. You can do plenty of configuration (including of course port forwarding) either from the GUI, or from a telnet CLI.

What I'm doing now is to use the Swisscom router as a dumb modem and have another router (in my case Apple Airport Extreme) terminating the PPPoE session and doing the actual routing. Things are a bit different in the VDSL world (afaik you don't do PPPoE but are just bridged, auth being based on MAC addresses) but you might be able to do something similar. The only word of caution then would be if you add the TV package, as this requires specific QoS settings that are implemented by Swisscom's router.
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Re: Semi-techie questions about Swisscom Infinity internet/Bluewin

I have just signed up for Infinity received the wireless router and set it up with no problem. I have also done port forwarding and that works fine too.
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Re: Semi-techie questions about Swisscom Infinity internet/Bluewin

Can you verify if you are connected with ISDN or Analogue?
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Re: Semi-techie questions about Swisscom Infinity internet/Bluewin

I am not sure if it's analogue or ISDN as I ahven't moved in yet. Does it makes a difference?
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In some of the older homes, there is only analogue available which can limit your ability to have VDSL with Swisscom.
When they visit (if), they could tell you the best way to prepare for things like Bluewin TV.
Since most of the data is now being stored on their server for remote services, they limit the models of modems you can use.
What is your reason for not wanting a router?
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Re: Semi-techie questions about Swisscom Infinity internet/Bluewin

OK, so other apartments in the block have Swisscom hi-speed so I am guessign it's ISDN.

Thank you all, by the way, for your input and advice.
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Re: Semi-techie questions about Swisscom Infinity internet/Bluewin

i would choose sunrise.
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Re: Semi-techie questions about Swisscom Infinity internet/Bluewin

Hi juice99, could you explain why you'd go with sunrise over swisscom? Cheers!
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Re: Semi-techie questions about Swisscom Infinity internet/Bluewin

OP,

I have Bluewin TV and Internet with Swisscom (on a 5000 connection) and am extremely pleased with the reliability and service. The router is proprietary to Swisscom, no other ones work (I tried). The reason for that is that now as the Swisscom Login portal deals with your information (speed, wi-fi codes, etc etc) it transmits that to the router after receiving the right credentials (tel number). If you plug in a different router, the right credentials don't get sent.

Concerning the speed you can get at your place (and whether your connection is analogue or digital) this link from Swisscom will help you check the line (if you have the current phone number of your place):
http://eorderspub.sso.bluewin.ch/eor...terAddressPage

My advice: as a Swisscom customer since 3.5 years, go with them. They assure quality service through experience and size.
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Re: Semi-techie questions about Swisscom Infinity internet/Bluewin

Many thanks all for your help and advice.
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Re: Semi-techie questions about Swisscom Infinity internet/Bluewin

I do not know the Swisscom DSL- Router, but on the USRobotics Routers, which I used to do Tech. Support on, have an option "Bridge mode", where it works as an ADSL Modem only. I would assume, a VDSL Router offers the same option.

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