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Swisscom vs Orange vs Sunrise signal strength... opinions please.

Well, the time has come to get rid of my horrible Swisscom corporate contract, and get something different and cheaper. I send a lot of SMS per month and Swisscom at 0.20CHF per text is absolutely crucifying me. I have my sights set on two contracts, from Orange:

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Xtreme Surf Unlimited:http://www1.orange.ch/residential_products_price-plans_x-treme.html
  • Unlimited SMS
  • 1GB data
  • Only 44 CHF per month.
Optima Plus http://www1.orange.ch/residential_products_price-plans_optima.html
  • Automatically chooses the best tariff depending how you use the phone
  • Calls to any 3 Preferred Numers on any Swiss network for free
  • All calls from Switzerland to all mobile- and fixed line networks in Europe and the USA are charged at the Swiss local rate
The thing that turns me on about Orange, aside from the reasonable prices, is the fact I can get a 12-month contract. I personally hate being tied into long 24-month ones.

I will be getting a phone that will primarily be a heavy uber-gadgety data device, so 3G coverage is a must in and around Zurich. Also important is signal strength for basic calls while outside Zurich and maybe up the odd mountain.

So... can anyone please comment on the signal strength of Orange vs Swisscom? Also of interest would be Sunrise, but more for curiousity's sake.

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Old 25.10.2009, 12:22
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Re: Swisscom vs Orange vs Sunrise signal strength... opinions please.

Sunrise signals except for major cities and towns, medicore IMHO. I've seen Orange do better.
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Re: Swisscom vs Orange vs Sunrise signal strength... opinions please.

I just switched from Sunrise to Orange, and my impression is that Orange has better coverage, at least in the ETHZ main buildiung.
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Re: Swisscom vs Orange vs Sunrise signal strength... opinions please.

Each operator has a map of their signal strength throughout Switzerland.

I unluckily enough, live right in an area where the signal strength is extremely poor... Orange would do a little better than Sunrise, but don't expect miracles in Switzerland.

Due to some legislation, the operators may not erect as many cell towers as they'd like to. I've been to remote islands in Thailand, way up north in Finland, in South American ghetto's, and all of them had better signal strength (that didn't drop all the friggin time) than here
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Re: Swisscom vs Orange vs Sunrise signal strength... opinions please.

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Due to some legislation, the operators may not erect as many cell towers as they'd like to.
Sorry, but that is a legend. I work at one of the operators and can tell you that there are no legal reasons (at least I know of), but it is very difficult to find and rent land for a base station.

Especially in some "richer areas" as for examples Zurich's gold coast nobody is willing to rent land and if you do file a "Bauantrag" all neighbors run amok for the spoilt lake view or "radiaton". Everybody wants a good signal, but nobody wants to see the antenna...
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Re: Swisscom vs Orange vs Sunrise signal strength... opinions please.

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Each operator has a map of their signal strength throughout Switzerland.

I unluckily enough, live right in an area where the signal strength is extremely poor... Orange would do a little better than Sunrise, but don't expect miracles in Switzerland.

Due to some legislation, the operators may not erect as many cell towers as they'd like to. I've been to remote islands in Thailand, way up north in Finland, in South American ghetto's, and all of them had better signal strength (that didn't drop all the friggin time) than here
I have an orange subscription and I reported few times network coverage issues on orange.ch - my account - help - manage my incidents. Approx. 3 months after reporting these issues, I have seen some improvements at some locations (not all however). Give it a try, it could be worth it!
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Re: Swisscom vs Orange vs Sunrise signal strength... opinions please.

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I have an orange subscription and I reported few times network coverage issues on orange.ch - my account - help - manage my incidents. Approx. 3 months after reporting these issues, I have seen some improvements at some locations (not all however). Give it a try, it could be worth it!
Considering it takes about 1-2 years to get building permits approved for new antenna locations, I'll venture to guess the improved coverage was already in the pipes for a while, and your 3 month time from reporting the problem to seeing an improvement was just a lucky coincidence
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Re: Swisscom vs Orange vs Sunrise signal strength... opinions please.

For my needs Swisscom is the best- I get services in English without a hassle and the coverage is excellent. With Orange there is no signal in my apartment except in the kitchen, and I am in the city centre.
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Re: Swisscom vs Orange vs Sunrise signal strength... opinions please.

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I will be getting a phone that will primarily be a heavy uber-gadgety data device, so 3G coverage is a must in and around Zurich. Also important is signal strength for basic calls while outside Zurich and maybe up the odd mountain.
My opinion: stay with Swisscom. Inside the bigger cities, Orange's 3G network is alright (alright, but not great). Outside: forget about it. Since Orange doesn't have an EDGE network, you're screwed as soon as you don't have a 3G signal. Web browsing on GPRS without EDGE is close to impossible.

3G coverage, in general, is subpar in Switzerland. You mostly don't get a decent signal inside buildings and on trains it's darn slow. GSM + EDGE on Swisscom are pretty much omnipresent, though, even on top of mountains.
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Re: Swisscom vs Orange vs Sunrise signal strength... opinions please.

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My opinion: stay with Swisscom. Inside the bigger cities, Orange's 3G network is alright (alright, but not great). Outside: forget about it. Since Orange doesn't have an EDGE network, you're screwed as soon as you don't have a 3G signal. Web browsing on GPRS without EDGE is close to impossible.

3G coverage, in general, is subpar in Switzerland. You mostly don't get a decent signal inside buildings and on trains it's darn slow. GSM + EDGE on Swisscom are pretty much omnipresent, though, even on top of mountains.
The problem is Swisscom tarrifs are just too expensive... there is nothing to compare to the value of the Orange equivalents. I think I may buy a Swisscom Pay as You Natter card for when I go skiing, and keep the Orange as my main SIM and contract. I just don't think I can justify spending the amount I spend just for the rare times i'm out of the city and the signal is weaker.
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I think I may buy a Swisscom Pay as You Natter card for when I go skiing, and keep the Orange as my main SIM and contract.
I bought a cheap M-Budget Mobile cell phone (including SIM card) excately for this reason. M-Budget Mobile is absolutely no-frills (no MMS, no voice mailbox, no Intenet) but it uses Swisscom's network.
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I just don't think I can justify spending the amount I spend just for the rare times i'm out of the city and the signal is weaker.
I fully agree, 'good enough' is often the best option when you consider what you actually need ('nice to have' is usually way to expensive).

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Re: Swisscom vs Orange vs Sunrise signal strength... opinions please.

Sunrise 3G - value for money, OK coverage esp. towns.
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So... can anyone please comment on the signal strength of Orange vs Swisscom? Also of interest would be Sunrise, but more for curiousity's sake.
Swisscom's coverage is superior since they have a lead of about 20 years in comparison to their 'competitors' and most of their network's build-up was done in a time when electro smog was no issue, however, except for inhouse coverage in some places and some remote areas, the coverage of Orange and Sunrise is usually good enough according to my own experience.

Why do you want to go with Orange? Sunrise is usually less expensive and has the better network from a technical perspective (in particular dual-band GSM and EDGE).

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Why do you want to go with Orange? Sunrise is usually less expensive and has the better network from a technical perspective (in particular dual-band GSM and EDGE).

Martin
If you can find me a Sunrise deal that works out cheaper than the Orange Xtreme Surf Unlimited deal I posted in the first post (Unlimited SMS, 1GB internet, 0.45CHF call rates for 44 CHF per month) then I would seriously consider it... I couldn't find one to match it.
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Re: Swisscom vs Orange vs Sunrise signal strength... opinions please.

Ok after digging deeper and seeing some things I missed previously the Sunrise option I can work out the following...

Sunrise Zero 25 - 25 CHF http://www1.sunrise.ch/Sunrise-zero/...de_CH-CHF.html

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  • Abogebühr / Monat 25.00
  • 250 SMS, 50 MMS oder 35 nationale Anrufe von je 2 Minuten Dauer in der Abogebühr enthalten
  • Anrufe ins Schweizer Festnetz 0.35
  • Anrufe zu Sunrise Mobile 0.35 Anrufe zu anderen Schweizer Mobilanbietern 0.35
  • Mit dem Handy im Internet surfen 0.10 / 20KB
  • Kostenloses Abhören von Sprachnachrichten innerhalb der Schweiz
  • SMS 0.10
  • MMS 0.50

1000 SMS - 19 CHF
http://www.sunrise.ch/de/privatkunde...en/message.htm

250MB internet - 7.50 CHF http://www.sunrise.ch/de/privatkunde...ionen/surf.htm

Total cost per month - 51.50 CHF

That actually doesn't look too bad at all... and if they have EDGE coverage then it is pretty tempting...
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Re: Swisscom vs Orange vs Sunrise signal strength... opinions please.

Yes, they ( Sunrise ) have EDGE ....

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'They'?

Sunrise has EDGE, Orange hasn't.

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Re: Swisscom vs Orange vs Sunrise signal strength... opinions please.

I have swisscom on my phone and my daughter has orange. She always seems to have very good signal strength in the Lausanne/Riviera area. When we travel so far sometimes one is better than the other but on balance they are even. Orange seems to continue to improve with additional stations, satellites etc... I'd go with the one that doesn't lock you in for 24 months (this type of contract seems to be a hold over from the days when Swisscom had more of a monopoly.)
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- Swisscom = (way) too expensive + coverage where I live has recently started to suck (no, it's not my phone - my wife is seeing the same thing)
Alot of operators, like AT&T in the US have started introducing "home femtocells", I think it's only a matter of time until the Swiss operators do the same. SO if you coverage at home is poor, but everything else is OK, then maybe hold out a little. As for Swisscoms prices, well, yea, Sunrise keeps driving the prices down, and if Swisscom doesn't keep in step, they'll lose customers.

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I have swisscom on my phone and my daughter has orange. She always seems to have very good signal strength in the Lausanne/Riviera area. When we travel so far sometimes one is better than the other but on balance they are even. Orange seems to continue to improve with additional stations, satellites etc... I'd go with the one that doesn't lock you in for 24 months (this type of contract seems to be a hold over from the days when Swisscom had more of a monopoly.)
Orange is a French company (owned by France Telecom), and they tend to focus heavily on the French part of Switzerland, so good coverage in lausanne doesn't suprise me (just make sure your phone says "Orange CH" tho and not "Orange F", otherwise your on the French network!!).

Actually, I've been to Lausanne many times with my Swisscom abo, and no problems at all. With Sunrise tho, I was making a call at Lausanne main train station and realized I was roaming on a French network (!!) so I guess their coverage isn't too great there...at least in my experience.
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Actually, I've been to Lausanne many times with my Swisscom abo, and no problems at all. With Sunrise tho, I was making a call at Lausanne main train station and realized I was roaming on a French network (!!) so I guess their coverage isn't too great there...at least in my experience.
I think it's safe to say that if you live near the border, you'll get your fair share of roaming experiences no matter what provider you use. I'm still with Swisscom (for another 2 weeks, that is - I canceled my contract as a precaution) and my phone switches to German networks all the time. It's quite a pain, really.

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