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muze7 04.07.2006 22:10

Watching BBC [with Cablecom Digital Price drop news]
 
I would like to watch BBC over the internet somehow. I am prepared to pay for it, and do it legally if such means exist.

Anyone know if this is possible in Switzerland? My guess is it is a long shot but since some of you seem to know lots of ways to keep certain links to the UK, I figured I could try :).

gbn 04.07.2006 22:29

Re: Watching BBC in Switzerland?
 
There is BBC1 and 2 via cablecom digital TV or search this forum for "Sky"...

gooner 05.07.2006 01:02

Re: Watching BBC in Switzerland?
 
aye, get cablecom and get your beeb... the digital recorder means you can schedule newsnight for your daily dose of Paxo mauling those who deserve it.

muze7 05.07.2006 01:48

Re: Watching BBC in Switzerland?
 
Yeah I know but it is about 50 chf per month if you add the billag fee.

I was hoping BBC has some form of paid internet subscription already. Besides, I do not have a tv. (The expense of a tv + subscription I cannot afford atm).

Lob 05.07.2006 10:12

Re: Watching BBC in Switzerland?
 
www.wwitv.com has some tv feeds over the internet.
alternately get a tv card for your PC and cheapo sat system?

There are no BBC feeds bar some short vids and rebroadcast world cup matches that they're showing (which you'd need a UK ip address to get).

Gav 05.07.2006 10:44

Re: Watching BBC in Switzerland?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muze7
Yeah I know but it is about 50 chf per month if you add the billag fee.

I was hoping BBC has some form of paid internet subscription already. Besides, I do not have a tv. (The expense of a tv + subscription I cannot afford atm).


AFAIK the BBC restricts most of their online programme material to UK IP addresses (there is some that is available worldwide).


If you can afford it, get a cheap digital satellite box along with a dish and decent LNB. You'll get all the BBC digital channels (BBC1, BBC2, BBC3/Cbeebies. BBC4/CBBC, BBC News24 and BBC Parliament) plus most of their radio channels too. And you can get all the ITV channels (ITV1, ITV2, ITV3, ITV4, ITV Play) plus a smattering of various other free English language channels, including Sky News I think.

Actually, since regional variants are there for the BBC and ITV stations you actually have access to dozens and dozens of channels.

Gav

Jrichards 15.08.2006 16:26

Re: Watching BBC in Switzerland?
 
Hi Gav
Any hints and tips on who to ask to set up the satelite (where to point it, how big it needs to be etc) as the electricians have spent several hours and can't get ours to work (it worked fine in Paris). We are in Zurich!

Thanks
Juliette (PS desperate for CBeebies!!)

Lob 15.08.2006 16:34

Re: Watching BBC in Switzerland?
 
If you have a compass, stand with the magnetic north pointing, erm, north and count around to 152 on the dial - that's the direction of the satellite.

Elevation is 32 degrees in Zurich.

Size should be 80cm or more otherwise you'll loose the Beeb during shitty weather.

And electricians charge how much by the hour??! :eek:

Gav 15.08.2006 18:20

Re: Watching BBC in Switzerland?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lob Rockster
If you have a compass, stand with the magnetic north pointing, erm, north and count around to 152 on the dial - that's the direction of the satellite.

Elevation is 32 degrees in Zurich.

Size should be 80cm or more otherwise you'll loose the Beeb during shitty weather.

And electricians charge how much by the hour??! :eek:

Yep, I just sat on the balcony and twiddled the dish around a bit until I got a signal on the Sky box (I fed the signal from the box out to a portable telly). A bit of fine tweaking on the Skew of the LNB and all was fine.

For the OP, a 0.3db NF LNB is recommended. That just means it amplifies the signal from the dish a bit better. You can pick them up from Media Markt for 40CHF and up.


Gav

Lob 15.08.2006 18:23

Re: Watching BBC in Switzerland?
 
lots of links here too btw:
http://swisswiki.ch/index.php/Televi...f_Information:

dannyt986 15.08.2006 23:41

Re: Watching BBC in Switzerland?
 
I concur with the comments about BBC restricting streaming content to UK IP addresses. Its the same with Sky Broadband. Altogether a worrying trend long term once broadband relegates satellite to oblivion.

Re Sky, I would even recommend gettin a 0.2db LNB, it costs barely more. With an 80cm dish I get almost full signal strength and quality even in snow storms.

Daniel

Lob 15.08.2006 23:46

Re: Watching BBC in Switzerland?
 
Sky via BB is also a P2P service; it won't kill distribution via satellite but VOD is a market Sky wants to crack.

FWIW I have 100/90 on both tuners on my Sky+. But that's the default transponder; the key is the signal for the 2D channels like BBC1; I also get 80% quality on those too, on a 1m dish with .3 Quad LNB :)

RSargeant 30.12.2006 20:14

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I've just finished (November 2006) a project working with Swisscom on their new Bluewin TV service. Briefly, this offers 100+ TV channels from many countries, sent to a set-top box via a very fast ADSL connection to the Internet. The costs are somewhat lower than Cablecom's digital cable offering and certainly cheaper than Sky, especially if you cancel your analogue cable TV connection and its associated charges. You get a very fast ADSL connection too!

The exact channels offered vary depending on where you live, but mainly in the local offerings, i.e. Tele Züri appears only in the Zürich area. The BCC and ITV offerings seem to remain constant. When I checked my location, BBC World, 2 3 and CBBC were offered, together with ITV 1, 2 & 4, CNN, Sky News and Film 4. Of course there's also a big selection of German, French, Italian and other language channels too.

Here's a link http://de.bluewin.ch/internetzugang/...Submit&lang=de where the only box you can enter anything into wants your Swiss postcode. Just enter that and you'll be rewarded with a list of all the channels provided at your location. There are also HD channels - Discovery etc but in German or French, but breathtakingly good quality.

You can also have VOD (Video on demand) where you can "rent" films for a small fee - better than the local DVD rental shop, and also have access to PPV (pay-per-view) which is for mainly sporting events like world championship boxing matches etc.

The functionality of the bosx is about the same as a Sky HD box - it has a disk and you can use the EPG (electronic program guide) to mark programs to be recorded later. The box has composite, S-Video, SCART and HDMI outputs.

It's all very new and there are some small teething problems and it may not (yet) be available in your area but if you are happy with the English channels mentioned above, give it a try. It's certainly a solution for those of us frustrated by Cablecom steadily removing channels from their analogue offering, and Swisscom's service is certainly better than Cablecom, whose customer service is legendarily bad!

Let us know if you try this and what you think. I have Sky and free ADSL from another provider so don't want it!

RS

Flashman4 30.12.2006 20:30

Re: Watching BBC in Switzerland?
 
I subscribed two weeks ago to bluewin TV and am going to be receiving 15 English language channels when it is finally installed on or about the 7th january (there is a massive waiting list). Cost is fr 29 per month for the basic setup of 100 or so channels.

Channels available vary according to your postcode. See http://video.msn.com/v/us/req.aspx?r...D%26GT1%3D8816 for details.

One thing annoeyed me though. About two months ago I bought a fancy and fast wireless modem / router. Bluewin sent me a new router in the post last week and told me that after the 7th of January or so, my wireless connection wouldn't work with this set up anymore and I will have to use the new one.

Flashman4 30.12.2006 20:34

Re: Watching BBC in Switzerland?
 
I forgot to add that with the set top box, you can pause live action. It also incorporates a Hard disk recorder for 100 hours. It can be programmed to record over the internet or via SMS. Ideal for when you get to work and realise that there's a programme on that you must see.

muze7 31.12.2006 00:16

Re: Watching BBC in Switzerland?
 
Although BlueWinTv sounds good, I won't switch until they get BBC1 as well. Right now the line up feels amputated.

That they require proprietary routers is annoying. Perhaps you can still use your old but it won't be supported? In other words, maybe they change their security settings soon, and you should manually change this via your (own) router's interface? Just a thought...

RSargeant 31.12.2006 01:16

Re: Watching BBC in Switzerland?
 
I'm puzzled at "proprietory". The routers I have seen are a standard Linksys part.

RS

marcus 31.12.2006 13:22

Re: Watching BBC in Switzerland?
 
I think u forgot to mention the 90 Chf instalation fee that swisscom bills you too !! :msncool:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flashman4
I subscribed two weeks ago to bluewin TV and am going to be receiving 15 English language channels when it is finally installed on or about the 7th january (there is a massive waiting list). Cost is fr 29 per month for the basic setup of 100 or so channels.

Channels available vary according to your postcode. See http://video.msn.com/v/us/req.aspx?r...D%26GT1%3D8816 for details.

One thing annoeyed me though. About two months ago I bought a fancy and fast wireless modem / router. Bluewin sent me a new router in the post last week and told me that after the 7th of January or so, my wireless connection wouldn't work with this set up anymore and I will have to use the new one.


Flashman4 31.12.2006 19:52

Re: Watching BBC in Switzerland?
 
Actually it's Fr95 but that's a one off :D

dawiz 01.01.2007 01:45

Re: Watching BBC in Switzerland?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Flashman4
Actually it's Fr95 but that's a one off :D

I received Bluewin TV about three weeks ago. It's actually a pretty decent product. I have it in combination with Teleclub (which offers almost all of its movies in the original language - mostly in English). It's just awesome to have most of the mainstream British FTA channels plus Film 4, including a full TV-guide and the possibility to tape shows by the touch of a button.
The live pause feature also comes in pretty handy.

The 95 Fr. one-time setup fee isn't too much, considering the fact that the "cable guy" had to re-wire parts of my telephone connection, had to install a permanent VDSL-Splitter and spent another 35 minutes explaining all the features of the set-top box. All in all, he worked for almost 3 hours in my apartment. The VDSL-Splitter is going to remain wired in, even if you move out of your place someday - the tech guy told me that all new telephone hook-ups will have that thing installed starting somewhere in 2007.


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