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Cablecom announce CI+ card usage - and price reduction

Cablecom finally announce CI+ card (CAM) usage - and price reduction.

The CI+ card usage will allow you to use your TV or any compatible recorder/box to receive Cablecom digital channels and not have to use their crappy boxes:

http://www.cablecom.ch/en/about/medi...text.htm?id=38

with the following pdf showing pictorially how this works :

http://www.cablecom.ch/en/factsheet_...__20100310.pdf

Price drop in June too

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Re: Cablecom announce CI+ card usage - and price reduction

Price drop...hm, I just signed on to FiberPower last month. I wonder if that locks me in at a higher price for another year. I am actually paying a few CHF less for more than twice the speed, but always like to save!

Glad to see that Cablecom is moving forward with better choices for its customers.

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PS - And while I am getting used to the quirks of my HD Recorder, it is very slow and not ideal. Would be very interested in seeing which alternatives are out there.
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Re: Cablecom announce CI+ card usage - and price reduction

so this means that we have to pay a one-off CHF99 and to get the basic digital TV package?

This is very useful!

If they do sports on demand instead of the expensive Teleclub basic + sports, then I will switch back from Satellite.
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Re: Cablecom announce CI+ card usage - and price reduction

Excuse my ignorance on this but...my TV is currently connected to a satellite dish via a Freesat decoder.

I presume for this to work it would also have to be connected to the incoming cable connection to the apartment, via a co-ax cable and the wall socket, right?
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Excuse my ignorance on this but...my TV is currently connected to a satellite dish via a Freesat decoder.

I presume for this to work it would also have to be connected to the incoming cable connection to the apartment, via a co-ax cable and the wall socket, right?
I would guess so. Look at the situation right now: The cable goes from the wall socket to the Cablecom box (where there is a CI and card) and then to the TV.

So with this new thing, you just bypass the Cablecom box.
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Cablecom finally announce CI+ card (CAM) usage - and price reduction.

The CI+ card usage will allow you to use your TV or any compatible recorder/box to receive Cablecom digital channels and not have to use their crappy boxes:

http://www.cablecom.ch/en/about/medi...text.htm?id=38

with the following pdf showing pictorially how this works :

http://www.cablecom.ch/en/factsheet_...__20100310.pdf

Price drop in June too

Pat
Good news! I'm not sure my TV supports CI+, but I'm interested in any alternatives to the HD recorders from Cablecom. Reviews anyone?
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Good news! I'm not sure my TV supports CI+, but I'm interested in any alternatives to the HD recorders from Cablecom. Reviews anyone?
Cablecom will announce the details of the various products and order options available in June in good time.
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so this means that we have to pay a one-off CHF99 and to get the basic digital TV package?
Currently the basic TV package includes 110 channels. For the one-off 99 Francs and also for the 4 Francs per month box you'll only get 55 channels.

It's not really a price reduction when you pay 33% less for 50% less channels.
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Good news! I'm not sure my TV supports CI+, but I'm interested in any alternatives to the HD recorders from Cablecom. Reviews anyone?
The whole point of CI+ is to prevent recording so I wouldn't count on the smartcard/CI+ module to be of any use in a recorder.
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Currently the basic TV package includes 110 channels. For the one-off 99 Francs and also for the 4 Francs per month box you'll only get 55 channels.

It's not really a price reduction when you pay 33% less for 50% less channels.
It rather depends *which* channels are available.
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The whole point of CI+ is to prevent recording so I wouldn't count on the smartcard/CI+ module to be of any use in a recorder.
Not even a 'sealed box' recorders like those buggy things Cablecom currently offer?
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Not even a 'sealed box' recorders like those buggy things Cablecom currently offer?
It says in the agreement between Cablecom and Preisüberwacher Cablecom won't limit the usage or storage of content through CI+ unless asked by content providers. So there's hope.

http://www.preisueberwacher.admin.ch..._JjKbNoKSn6A--
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Re: Cablecom announce CI+ card usage - and price reduction

Do you think this can be used with DVB-C tpye PC TV Tuner Card in a HTPC ?
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Do you think this can be used with DVB-C tpye PC TV Tuner Card in a HTPC ?
Officially if the card has a daughterboard for a CI+ card
Unofficially if you use DVBViewer and some soft k-e-y-s file
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Re: Cablecom announce CI+ card usage - and price reduction

Actually I would like buy one DVB-C card with CI+ Slot for my HTPC when Cablecom is releasing this CI Card in June then I think this will not be illegal anymore.

Am I right ?
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Re: Cablecom announce CI+ card usage - and price reduction

As an existing internet and analogue customer, I just received a letter from cablecon:

They state that from June 2010 they will be offering digital TV with 55 channels for a one-off payment of CHF99 for a 'DigiCard'. Also they will be launching 300 Kbit/s internet free - this to all 1.5 million CC customers.

Now, if you already have digital TV and much faster internet, the bad news is that the price people will let them increase the basic monthly charge to CHF23.20 +VAT (up 70rp) from June too...

**Which I see is one of the links of the OP's first post. OK back to sleeps now...
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Re: Cablecom announce CI+ card usage - and price reduction

Do we know which 55 channels will be on offer?

And will they have more advanced offers featuring more (HD) channels?
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Re: Cablecom announce CI+ card usage - and price reduction

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I would guess so. Look at the situation right now: The cable goes from the wall socket to the Cablecom box (where there is a CI and card) and then to the TV.

So with this new thing, you just bypass the Cablecom box.
Check your TV it may have two cable inputs, if not and you want to keep both you can combine the sat and cc signal into one cable with a multi-switch. It works for me.
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Re: Cablecom announce CI+ card usage - and price reduction

If I understand correctly, when I use the CI+ card in my TV, I still need a DVR to record shows, but I do not need a Cablecom supplied box?

And as per the price reduction, it looks like Fibrepower 50 is now 60CHF/month instead of 85 and Fiberpower 100 is 85CHF/month instead of 100.

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If I understand correctly, when I use the CI+ card in my TV, I still need a DVR to record shows, but I do not need a Cablecom supplied box?
Your assumption is correct: to record a TV program, you must use a recorder. That is a basic prerequisite for recording TV programs.

The recorder can be either built into the TV (check if your TV has a built-in recorder, some do) or a separate external device.

The external recorder can be a recorder of your own choice, chosen to integrate into your TV setup according to your needs and desires and price bracket.

How you connect your recorder depends on the connection capabilities of your TV system.
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