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Old 11.05.2010, 13:45
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I agree. That's why I ditched it as soon as a worthwhile contender came along. I sold it for as much as I bought the Desire for

Big downside of any phone that isn't the iPhone is depreciation
True. And with Andriod phones, another problem is with the firmware support.
But at the end of the day, I would buy the desire over the iphone without blinking.

I hope you are having fun with your desire.
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Old 11.05.2010, 13:58
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I don't think it's the accuracy that I'm into, it's more the sensitivity. I always found with my old HTCs that I was forever calibrating the screen as well. I use my phone with my gloves all the time in the lab as well, but they are very thin gloves.

So I don't really appreciate being told I've been sucked into Apple propaganda. I've tried resistive and I didn't like them. I like capacitive and that's the direction that most high end smart phones are going so I will stick with them (as if I will have a choice soon?)

I find multi touch is a big deal. I use it whenever I browse. But AFAIK, resistive screens are also capable of multi touch.
Sorry I wasn't trying to be too snarky, but yes it was. Very sorry. I find my N900 very responsive. No worse than an iPhone; I actually find it better, but that depends on what screen protector one has applied.

As for multi-touch, it's very nice for sure. Although I must say that for zooming on web pages, single touch implementation is better since then you can do it with one hand, but on the other hand it's hard to perfect.

Customisable gestures on a multi-touch resistive would be nice.

Anyways, there are iPhones for the sheep, nice HTC Androids for most everyone else, and N900s for the geeks. If the N900 had more polish in its features, I would pick it as the best of the bunch; it definitely has a way better UI. To each their own. I'd recommend an HTC Android to those who aren't willing to dick around a bit as I know the N900 is probably going to require it.
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Old 11.05.2010, 14:02
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I've used resistive touch screen in the past with the HTC offering when they where all JASJAM and JASJAR and was not impressed with them. I vowed never to get a touch screen phone again.

Then my sis in law got the Nokia 5800. I thought 'well they must have improved since then' and it was also terrible. Granted it's better with the stylus, but I think it's too much hassle to take a stick out to use my phone.

I then tried an iPhone out in the apple store and was amazed. And don't get me wrong, I hate Apple and everything they stand for. In fact as soon as something better came (HTC desire) I was off.

I don't think it's the accuracy that I'm into, it's more the sensitivity. I always found with my old HTCs that I was forever calibrating the screen as well. I use my phone with my gloves all the time in the lab as well, but they are very thin gloves.

So I don't really appreciate being told I've been sucked into Apple propaganda. I've tried resistive and I didn't like them. I like capacitive and that's the direction that most high end smart phones are going so I will stick with them (as if I will have a choice soon?)

I find multi touch is a big deal. I use it whenever I browse. But AFAIK, resistive screens are also capable of multi touch.
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Well...the 5800 sucks...basically. I have it and I *hate* the touch interface. And to be fair, it was only a "pilot" for nokia. I think they were building up for something like the N900.

And as far as the htc:desire goes, I am amazed by the sense UI.

I have used the iPhone and i know its really great and all...but somehow I would like to be able to use a stylus...and not just my fingers all the time.
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Just regarding the use of stylus and people not liking them (one user on another thread said they are redundant now).
I understand iPhone users thinking that stylus(styli) are uncool.

But even with a phone with a big screen like the HTC HD2 how do you guys click on fiddly things like the page numbers on EF (see geeky screen shot)?
My touch screen phone which is capacitive has a small screen and it's so random and frustrating when you click on something fiddly.

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That's why I think the stylus isn't dead just yet until phone screens are as big as an iPad.

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Old 11.05.2010, 14:03
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To each their own.
Amen to that.
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Old 11.05.2010, 14:06
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Just regarding the use of stylus and people not liking them (one user on another thread said they are redundant now).
I understand iPhone users thinking that stylus(styli) are uncool.

But even with a phone with a big screen like the HTC HD2 how do you guys click on fiddly things like the page numbers on EF (see geeky screen shot).
My touch screen phone which is capacitive has a small screen and it's so random and frustrating when you click on something fiddly.

That's why I think the stylus isn't dead just yet until phone screens are as big as an iPad.
Totally agree. When borrowing friends phones I would get so frustrated trying to click small links: zoom in, move to correct spot, click, fail, try again ...

This morning using my N900 for the first time, first I was amazing how accurate the screen was and that I could click a lot of such links with my neanderthal fingers, but when even this was difficult, with the stylus it was perfect!

Functionality and usability shoudn't be made redundant due to what Jobs thinks is cool.
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Just regarding the use of stylus and people not liking them (one user on another thread said they are redundant now).
I understand iPhone users thinking that stylus(styli) are uncool.

But even with a phone with a big screen like the HTC HD2 how do you guys click on fiddly things like the page numbers on EF (see geeky screen shot).
My touch screen phone which is capacitive has a small screen and it's so random and frustrating when you click on something fiddly.

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That's why I think the stylus isn't dead just yet until phone screens are as big as an iPad.
You pinch to zoom very quickly and select the enlarged button, which then auto-zooms out to where it was. Same for Android, and works a treat. I haven't missed a stylus once yet aside from the rare occasion when I need to select some very, very specific tect, and even then I think the advantages of capacitive outweigh the negatives (for my needs).
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Old 11.05.2010, 14:08
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YOu pinch to zoom very quickly and select the enlarged button, which then auto-zooms out to where it was. Same for ANdroid, works a treat.
On my resistive screen I just click. Easy winner.

They stylus is a big winner when using advanced apps which the N900 has. The paint program is amazing and there is a whole community out there of N900 artists. Can't do this without a stylus, even on an iPad. Ditto for drawing and making last minute slides, etc.

The MAIN point is that you don't have to use the stylus, but it's nice to have it. I hate it when useful technology is made obsolete for no reason. Having options is ALWAYS good. But the philosophy of certain companies is the opposite.
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Functionality and usability shoudn't be made redundant due to what Jobs thinks is cool.
The guy is brilliant. How would he sell the ipad then ?
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Just regarding the use of stylus and people not liking them (one user on another thread said they are redundant now).
I understand iPhone users thinking that stylus(styli) are uncool.

But even with a phone with a big screen like the HTC HD2 how do you guys click on fiddly things like the page numbers on EF (see geeky screen shot).
My touch screen phone which is capacitive has a small screen and it's so random and frustrating when you click on something fiddly.

Attachment 15230

That's why I think the stylus isn't dead just yet until phone screens are as big as an iPad.
If I had a video camera I'd take a video using the desire. I am actually shocked at how accurate it is. Of course out of 100 times a stylus will be more accurate than my giant grubby fingers.

Big annoyance of capacitive screens are finger prints AFAIK the Desire doesn't have the lipophobic coating so it really attract them
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On my resistive screen I just click. Easy winner.
For that one activitiy, and a few others where that sort of accuracy is needed, yes, one click is a half second quicker than pinching and zooming. However for the other 99.9% of things I end up doing with my phone I find capacitive far, far superior for everyday use. I personally could never go back to resistive now.

However the point is moot... that's my uses. If you like resistive for your needs, then it's better.
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Old 11.05.2010, 14:15
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If I had a video camera I'd take a video using the desire. I am actually shocked at how accurate it is. Of course out of 100 times a stylus will be more accurate than my giant grubby fingers.

Big annoyance of capacitive screens are finger prints AFAIK the Desire doesn't have the lipophobic coating so it really attract them

In that case, who cares about our argument for general use.

As for finger prints, my protective cover seems to attract them big time so no gain there for me.

As I said before, why can't phone manufacturers just make a proper scratch-free screen in the first place. Obvioulsy they could do it ...
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In that case, who cares about our argument for general use.

As for finger prints, my protective cover seems to attract them big time so no gain there for me.

As I said before, why can't phone manufacturers just make a proper scratch-free screen in the first place. Obvioulsy they could do it ...
And lose out on people buying screen protectors?
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Old 30.06.2010, 13:18
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Re: Nokia N900: Sweet Bliss!

I'm now a happy owner of a Swiss German keyboard N900.
It was worth the wait.
Very nice even though I had to flasher the phone to get it to hard reset on day 1 once the battery died all too fast.
Some funky apps to download.
I'm just bewlidered that when I lost the stylus last week, Nokia said they don't yet sell spares. What a joke. HTC provided 2 spare and better quality styluseses/i.
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Re: Nokia N900: Sweet Bliss!

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=laser+cut

This guy at the Maemo forum sells custom made stand and stylus for the N900. I have bought two stands and one stylus. They are quite good. The stylus is almost the same as the original, only a little bit softer.
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Re: Nokia N900: Sweet Bliss!

This article may be of interest to some of you N900 owners

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/07...a_n900_update/
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Re: Nokia N900: Sweet Bliss!

Well it's time to renew my Orange contract for another year (I only have ever take 12 month extentions) and for the first time ever I don't feel the need or urge to replace my phone. That's high praise indeed.
The N900 has been and still is superb and rock solid. The only minus points were not being able to buy a replacement stylus, a few well used keys on the keyboard are a bit worn and answering calls when the phone's screen orientation flips between landscape and portrait display.

So what are the recommendations of contenders out there (if I were to change) for really powerful smartphones as flawless as the N900? I might consider an iPhone but don't really want to go down that route with a phone that has so many restrictions (and certain shortcomings).
Come on it's time to step up to the mark/crease/plate and prove your phone's mettle.
I dare you....I double dare you, to take on the might of Nokia N900!

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Re: Nokia N900: Sweet Bliss!

Its been released in 2009, but still good choice, especially the keyboard. There are rumors about Nokia N9, another Linux distribution, and maybe some upgrades, possible 1GHz processor.
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Re: Nokia N900: Sweet Bliss!

A few questions for all you N900 fans and others, I need a new phone with email access (I have a small business and a workshop without internet access) and navigation (if possible), my wife has a N900 which she dislikes and has problems using all it functionality. I am considering taking her phone and getting her a new one. I am not very phone literate.
1 Would you recommend the N900 for this?
2 Other alternatives to look at for these requirements?
3 HTC vs N900 which is more user friendly?
4 Am I a complete traitor if I get an Iphone?
5 How much beer would it cost me to get someone to give me some training on a N900?
6 Is 1GB per month enough to cover mobile email (6-10 per day) and navigation (1-2 times per week)?

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A few questions for all you N900 fans and others, I need a new phone with email access (I have a small business and a workshop without internet access) and navigation (if possible), my wife has a N900 which she dislikes and has problems using all it functionality. I am considering taking her phone and getting her a new one. I am not very phone literate.
1 Would you recommend the N900 for this?
2 Other alternatives to look at for these requirements?
3 HTC vs N900 which is more user friendly?
4 Am I a complete traitor if I get an Iphone?
5 How much beer would it cost me to get someone to give me some training on a N900?
6 Is 1GB per month enough to cover mobile email (6-10 per day) and navigation (1-2 times per week)?

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The N900 was marketed as a niche phone for geeks that would be able to really take advantage of the open customisation it offered... it's not for phone illiterates.

Get a HTC with Sense or an iPhone instead, and do a bit of research on phone sites (Google some reviews etc) while you're at it to avoid the rather obvious questions youre asking.
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