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Google TV

Has anyone designed a site yet for Google TV ?

From what I can gather navigation will either be via QWERTY keyboard or TV Remote, this I feel will be clumsy and not user friendly...

Does anyone feel that a UV mouse could be adapted to take the place of a traditional remote?

Very little has been released to date, but for developers this is a mighty leap!
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Old 08.09.2010, 21:33
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Re: Google TV

It will be intersting to see what content is available outside of the US, or whether a form of the BBCiplayer will be available outside the UK. I think that the BBC are really missing a huge revenue possibilty for not showing their own content outside if the UK.
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Re: Google TV

I agree and I really do not understand their motives for it but obviously they have one.

With the dawn of internet enabled TVs on the horizon I think their product development team should be on it, if not they will, I feel really miss out.

There is a website that shows BBC1, 2 and ITV1 live here in Switzerland, I can't remember the domain because it is on my desktop on my office computer but I will post it when I find it.

I really cannot wait for the time when voice will be able to link you to all the digital content available in the public domain from any digital device including 'The Master' television.
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I agree and I really do not understand their motives for it but obviously they have one.
What about: Google wants to know which tv channels you are watching
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Re: Google TV

I'm thinking that this is going to be really interesting when it comes out. But as always I think that it will be very US focused. There will probably be a whole load of rights restrictions which will make it virtually useless in Switzerland (unless you get cheeky and start proxying to the US).

On the google tv developer site [1] there is some information about how google thinks developers should design web applications. Android applications should also run on it.


[1] http://www.google.com/tv/developer/
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Re: Google TV

for googleTV to have a chance, it should work with a normal TV remote.
Most people don't want to have a keyboard or mouse to watch TV.
Every device must be considered separately. Mobile internet met the success when apple came with its navigation (touchscreen). The same new navigation with remote should happen for TV.
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Re: Google TV

Thank you for the links Monkeyboy, but I have looked at those already ; ) .

As to the restrictions being confined to the U.S, if they do start off that way it won't be long before the world demands access, it is after all the WWW where restrictions are easy overcome (you yourself found one before they have even launched ).

I love Google, especially their latest product..Pre-emptive search....That will we such a competition cruncher on mobile where typing is a pain.

On TV it will be just as good when voice search is available....Or better still thought search, that is where we are heading with Tesla technology moving as fast as it is...

I know many people will think the above is too much of an invasion of our privacy but the facts are facts, privacy was sold down the line with the event of CCTV and social networking....We are now online even if we don't want to be!
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What about: Google wants to know which tv channels you are watching
We were discussing the BBC, but yes of course Google do want to know what you are watching, plus where you are and what you do and soon what you will think next.
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for googleTV to have a chance, it should work with a normal TV remote.
Most people don't want to have a keyboard or mouse to watch TV.
Every device must be considered separately. Mobile internet met the success when apple came with its navigation (touchscreen). The same new navigation with remote should happen for TV.
A touch screen pad built into or attached to your most comfortable arm-chair with the abilities of a mouse with finger tip QUERTY keyboard with predictive text enabled....I want one!
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It will be intersting to see what content is available outside of the US, or whether a form of the BBCiplayer will be available outside the UK. I think that the BBC are really missing a huge revenue possibilty for not showing their own content outside if the UK.
I have been meaning to answer this question for sometime because I too wondered why the BBC were missing out on such an opportunity then it dawned on me, it's obviously something to do with the license fee or TV Tax as my son calls it.

Why they don't offer subscriptions for oversees viewers I don't know, maybe there is something in their charter that prohibits it or maybe they make too much money by licensing to other players like SKY etc it will lose them money in doing so.

If there are any BBC employees or Xes that could give a full correct answer I would love to know.
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Re: Google TV

I have no connection to any broadcaster, so these are just my opinions, but I thought it all came down to licensing.

When buying in content the BBC will only purchase the rights to show programs in the UK. The content producers will then go to Switzerland, Germany, France, or who ever and sell the exclusive rights in their territory. If the BBC were to then to stream these shows to another country where someone else has spent a lot of money to buy the exclusive rights, they will find themselves in a little trouble.

So I guess the next question would be, what about their own content. Why not just stream that? Well, I would assume that someone at the top had decided that they can sell a show like Top Gear for millions in the US. Then sell it for millions in Germany. Then sell it again for millions to Australia, again because they are telling these people that it's an exclusive deal there. There is no other way to watch these shows in that country. You have to watch on a station that has bought the rights, you have to watch their advertising. If you start streaming to these countries there is no way in which the stations can be sure that of the X million people wanting to will watch the show, it will be through their service. So the BBC are in the position of weighing up, how many $0.99 downloads would they need for it to be worth selling the show to the end users as opposed to just making deals with individual stations in the same way they have always done?

So next you will ask about why people can have sky dishes here and receive TV from the UK? Technology makes this possible, but from the licensing side it should not be done. The sky boxes have to be registered to a valid UK address where they should be installed. Sky try making sure you are connected to a UK land phone line. They do things to look like they are enforcing the rules that they can only broadcast to the UK. I assume in reality as long as it looks like they are making a best effort to enforce this, they are happy to take your money where ever it's coming from.

It's not that the BBC are missing a trick by not streaming their content to anyone who wants it. I think that it's more to do with them being tied by contractual agreements.


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I have been meaning to answer this question for sometime because I too wondered why the BBC were missing out on such an opportunity then it dawned on me, it's obviously something to do with the license fee or TV Tax as my son calls it.

Why they don't offer subscriptions for oversees viewers I don't know, maybe there is something in their charter that prohibits it or maybe they make too much money by licensing to other players like SKY etc it will lose them money in doing so.
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Re: Google TV

Good answer Monkeyboy, I was thinking along the same lines..
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digital boxes spy on you and listen to your conversations. maybe to market to you. it is orwellian and it is real. Commies everywhere trying to control you at every move. You cannot trust government and big business. When they work together it is called fascism, and it is not a right wing ideal. It is ultra left just like the Commies and Socialists with their propaganda ministers.

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Re: Google TV

Nearly everything we do is spied on, it is the 21stC we can't go back, living in a cave doesn't do it for me, we pay the price for our comfort, we can't live without it or if we could would it be worth it?

If you managed to change the way the world has puts decided to put things in order what would your alternative be?

Things are too far gone to change, you just have to accept them and make the most of them, otherwise you may as well give up.
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call your rep and demand a law so that cable companies don't listen to your conversations?!?!?!?!?!?!!??!
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Re: Google TV

Expat, even if I could demand a law, which as an expat I would certainly not be able to do in Switzerland, whoever wanted to spy would just find another way to do it...

I think if I rang Swisscom and asked them to do what you asked I think the operator would pi** themselves laughing...Can you do it or me before you leave?
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it is the responsibility of citizens to call their elected officials and to stop tyranny lest your eitire life be controlled by unelected bureaucrats.
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Re: Google TV

It already is Expat and has been for a long time, any way of resisting it was quashed before they rolled it upon us..

BTW if I do that horrendous journey again I will help you empty your flat of all the books films etc so that you don't have to pay for clearance.. But I won't pay for them...We can instead have a good conversation about the NWO
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digital boxes spy on you and listen to your conversations. maybe to market to you. it is orwellian and it is real. Commies everywhere trying to control you at every move. You cannot trust government and big business. When they work together it is called fascism, and it is not a right wing ideal. It is ultra left just like the Commies and Socialists with their propaganda ministers.



Hoax. The "camera" is the Infrared detector for the remote control.
Missing wires, wrong location etc. How should the camera see through the very dark plastic ?

One day there may be cameras in these things but not this unit.
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Re: Google TV

Google TV remote disclosed: didn't Microsoft try keyboard for TV and failed?

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