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Old 21.10.2010, 12:08
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Re: New MacBook Air [Thread Split]

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If I could get a US kybd in the London shops, I'd be off one of these weekends (want to visit London anyways).

(Hate the tiny carriage return on the UK kybd)
I'm sure you could order this and have it waiting for you there.
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Old 21.10.2010, 12:10
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For what you're proposing would it not be more cost effective to buy a high performance sub notebook and stick Linux on it?

I've got to say that the only reason that I buy Apple is the operating system - yes I know that Mac OS X can be shoehorned onto a standard PC, but it's not without problems.

While the 11" Air is kind of what I've been waiting for, I think the price point is too high for what it is. Given what I'd use it for, I'd be better of buying a cheap netbook and running Linux, especially when you consider that once you've disregarded the nice exterior of an Apple computer all you're left with is just some pretty run of mill hardware.
But I like that it is pretty. And very thin. A purchase of an Air has nothing to do with being cost effective. I just want.
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Old 21.10.2010, 12:58
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This isn't true.

I've had VAT free shopping from Oki-ni in the UK before, for instance.
I've had VAT free shopping from Amazon and from clove.co.uk as well. That doesn't mean they are part of the VAT retail export scheme though. Not charging VAT only applies to items that are sent directly out of the country. Not items that are bought in the UK then taken out of the country AFAIK.
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Old 21.10.2010, 13:52
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I've had VAT free shopping from Amazon and from clove.co.uk as well. That doesn't mean they are part of the VAT retail export scheme though. Not charging VAT only applies to items that are sent directly out of the country. Not items that are bought in the UK then taken out of the country AFAIK.
I thought we were talking about practical ways to buy one in the UK and bring it to Switzerland without incurring VAT. It hadn't really occurred to me that we were, at any point, considering online shops delivering to the UK.

Thanks for the Global Blue tip though. I think that's a relatively recent improvement.
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Old 21.10.2010, 14:05
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Re: New MacBook Air [Thread Split]

One note about performance:

The new Macbook Air's storage is all onboard flash. They are touting the benefit of instant on and also saying that file access is 2x the speed of a normal hard drive.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/10..._air_diskless/
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Old 21.10.2010, 14:16
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Last time I check iMovie sucked and I had to install other software. But maybe they've fixed it / improved it by now. There is openSource video editting software for Linux, so presumably it also exists for Windows.
there isn't any decent video editing sw for linux. i built a windows machine specifically for video editing.

i have an old fujitsu p1610 which is around the same weight/portability - though if the cheap netbooks were out at the time, i would have got one of those instead.
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Old 21.10.2010, 14:24
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Last time I check iMovie sucked and I had to install other software. But maybe they've fixed it / improved it by now. There is openSource video editting software for Linux, so presumably it also exists for Windows.
When was the last time you used iMovie? They have put quite a lot of work in on that recently.
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Old 21.10.2010, 14:30
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When was the last time you used iMovie? They have put quite a lot of work in on that recently.
2.5 years ago. It was so bad I never bothered going back. Leopard was the wrong time to join the Mac mafia. OSX crashing way more times than Windows and iMovie exporting movies as plain black screen.
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Old 21.10.2010, 14:33
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Re: New MacBook Air [Thread Split]

Just been into the Bahnhofstrasse store to have a gander and couldn't see a single new or old MBA on display. Was in a bit of a rush so didn't get chance to speak to anyone. I wouldn't make a special trip without calling ahead.
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Old 21.10.2010, 15:56
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Re: New MacBook Air [Thread Split]

http://www.macworld.com/article/1550...0inch_air.html

"I did try to watch some video on this Air—typically a major MacBook Air bugaboo. I was able to stream an episode of Terriers from Hulu without incident. The episode played without getting all jumpy and dropping frames (a typical symptom of an overheated and struggling MacBook Air in the past). The Air definitely heated up when the video was playing, and its fan kicked in—though honestly, I had to almost place my ear against the back hinge before I could actually hear it. Playing H.264 video was much smoother than I’ve experienced on prior Air models as well—again, presumably because of that Nvidia graphics processor."
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Old 21.10.2010, 16:06
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Re: New MacBook Air [Thread Split]

I'm sold! 11' 256gb I think!
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Old 21.10.2010, 16:07
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Re: New MacBook Air [Thread Split]

I think I've found a flaw and it's one you wouldn't even normally think about until you've used a MacBook and then used most windows based laptops. It looks like they have got rid of the backlit keyboard. For me it's like a multi-touch trackpad: you don't realise how awesome it is until you use a system without it.
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Old 21.10.2010, 16:21
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Re: New MacBook Air [Thread Split]

I saw that re kybd, but it's not an issue for me.

I am questioning now whether I want a 11". Will have to molest both and decide.
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Old 21.10.2010, 16:41
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Re: New MacBook Air [Thread Split]

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Maximum storage for 11" is 128gb
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Old 21.10.2010, 17:34
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Bugger, that'll have to do then, external HDs or connection to Mac Mini ahoy!
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Old 21.10.2010, 17:36
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Re: New MacBook Air [Thread Split]

Just having a quick look through the service manuals for the new Airs and the SSD's are of a proprietary format, and use of course a proprietary connector - so no chance of sticking standard form factor drive in them (you couldn't do this with the previous Airs anyway so no change there)

The good news is that the SSD is not welded to the logic board, which is what a lot of people suspected, so there's a chance that some 3rd party maybe able to produce upgrade cards - assuming they don't fall foul of Apples IP, which knowing Apple there's every chance of doing.

Even though the 13" and 11" have different part numbers for the SSDs they look exactly the same, so there's a chance that you could get an 11" unit unofficially upgraded to 256 using the Apple part for the 13". However this would effectively double the price of the 11".

RAM upgrades are a no go, as with the previous Airs. Well that's not entirely true, but it would involve replacing the logic board with one with more RAM. Therefore forget it.
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Old 21.10.2010, 17:37
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Re: New MacBook Air [Thread Split]

I can't believe I am defending an apple product.

Airs aren't supposed to be upgraded or otherwise. Buy what you need and use it. It's not meant to be your all-purpose computing device, simply an ultraportable.
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Old 21.10.2010, 17:39
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I can't believe I am defending an apple product.

Airs aren't supposed to be upgraded or otherwise. Buy what you need and use it. It's not meant to be your all-purpose computing device, simply an ultraportable.
It's good to know its limitations however.
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Old 21.10.2010, 17:40
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Re: New MacBook Air [Thread Split]

Is it a good idea to get the new Air to run windows 7? Will it run well?
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Old 21.10.2010, 17:41
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Just having a quick look through the service manuals for the new Airs and the SSD's are of a proprietary format, and use of course a proprietary connector - so no chance of sticking standard form factor drive in them (you couldn't do this with the previous Airs anyway so no change there)

The good news is that the SSD is not welded to the logic board, which is what a lot of people suspected, so there's a chance that some 3rd party maybe able to produce upgrade cards - assuming they don't fall foul of Apples IP, which knowing Apple there's every chance of doing.

Even though the 13" and 11" have different part numbers for the SSDs they look exactly the same, so there's a chance that you could get an 11" unit unofficially upgraded to 256 using the Apple part for the 13". However this would effectively double the price of the 11".

RAM upgrades are a no go, as with the previous Airs. Well that's not entirely true, but it would involve replacing the logic board with one with more RAM. Therefore forget it.
Remind me to have you on my team when we're doing the next Pub Quiz featuring "knowing the inside of your beloved Apple device" subject Mr. Slap!.

I opted for flash memory with my 13" MacBook Pro last year when that line was introduced. Best laptop I've ever owned, it's still extremely reliable and I've never had an issue with it. Although it was an expensive option, I favor flash over a moving parts hard disk any day.
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